tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post8306839966189633638..comments2024-02-29T12:38:32.191-08:00Comments on MUSINGS ON IRAQ: Foreign Investment In Iraq’s Basra Runs Into ProblemsJoel Winghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09611810110771744360noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-83542070175021105262011-08-13T22:49:52.524-07:002011-08-13T22:49:52.524-07:00I was responding to your point nothing more nothin...I was responding to your point nothing more nothing less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-57748020850400786472011-08-13T22:42:20.811-07:002011-08-13T22:42:20.811-07:00I think we're having some miscommunication pro...I think we're having some miscommunication problems.<br /><br />Very simple excuses....looks well you run of wordsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-34376726737911295942011-08-13T22:14:31.167-07:002011-08-13T22:14:31.167-07:00I think we're having some miscommunication pro...I think we're having some miscommunication problems. I'm not always sure what your point is, and that obviously is throwing off my responses. Now we can try to work on that and continue this conversation or you can keep up with the name calling. Your choice.Joel Winghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09611810110771744360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-67746747145451855432011-08-13T21:13:23.257-07:002011-08-13T21:13:23.257-07:00Joel Wing
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You just repeat you...Joel Wing<br />Bla.... Bla... Bla <br />You just repeat yourself repeatedly><br />Your comment well known event you don’t need to revisited again and again unless this something with your mind-set, that whey you invaded Iraq to put things in order not the continuing corrupt, gangster power is not, isn’t our”<i> 15+ year History/ a BA and MA in International Relations” </i> guru?<br />Btw, North Iraq (Kurds) those you were carrying for them were not under tyrant regime control whatsoever from 1991 till 2003, do not mix words and be manipulative here, remember your historian dude.<br />Go do and do your homework well before put your comments here, they well none they are thieves and gangster put were protected by your No-Fly-Zone fake names.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-7371485348293289542011-08-13T18:59:42.848-07:002011-08-13T18:59:42.848-07:00In the 1990s gangs, tribes, and the regime were sm...In the 1990s gangs, tribes, and the regime were smuggling oil to avoid the U.N. sanctions. Since 2003 all kinds of other groups joined the fray. And of course don't forget the Kurds that have been smuggling oil to Iran since the 1990s as well. Here's an article I wrote about it:<br /><br />http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/2010/08/history-of-oil-smuggling-in-iraq.htmlJoel Winghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09611810110771744360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-65762978579025580282011-08-13T18:11:41.707-07:002011-08-13T18:11:41.707-07:00That is exactly what I meant with my previous comm...That is exactly what I meant with my previous comment. If Us & UK forces cannot control these issue why they been there? Under UN charters, the occupied forces have the responsibility of securing the civilians and their assets and land, isn’t Joel?<br /> Fadhila Party well known by all Iraqis and none Iraqis bunch of thieves and terrorist group just part like Hezbollah how they got recognised and been working political party asked yourself and your heroes Bremer and thereafter who gave them all support, they are just as you said gangsters thieves.<br /><br /><br /><i>Iraqis have been smuggling oil for decades though a variety of means and it goes all over</i><br />Give me a break here, when tyrant regime were in power yes you might accepted to a degree your claims of searching all moving ships/boats, however I am well watching the operation of banning on Iraq there are a lot of boats ships seized either to Kuwaitis shore also other gulf island like UAE when UN sanction was in place that made harder for tyrant regime to smuggle through sea he used Iran shores and you should well aware the Rafsanjani’s Sun involvement in that oil smuggling through Iran from Iraq between two regimes relations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-53449559183211947932011-08-13T16:14:50.317-07:002011-08-13T16:14:50.317-07:00Anon, the Fadhila Party ran Basra from 2005-2009. ...Anon, the Fadhila Party ran Basra from 2005-2009. From 2009 to the present Maliki's State of Law runs the province. <br /><br />Iraqis have been smuggling oil for decades though a variety of means and it goes all over to Iran, to Turkey, to Jordan, to the Gulf States, etc. They've used tankers and small boats. I'm sure they could get through U.S. and British naval patrols in Basra. They were just not going to stop every small boat they saw. In fact, naval security in Basra was almost exclusively based upon protecting the oil terminals, so it should have been pretty easy to get around.Joel Winghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09611810110771744360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-74655193335996904592011-08-13T16:05:53.921-07:002011-08-13T16:05:53.921-07:00From 2005-2009?......From 2009-2011?
Joel,
Let n...From 2005-2009?......From 2009-2011? <br /><br />Joel,<br />Let not put the blame on Iraqi thieves only. The oil ports & oil filed were the first targets listed American and Britt’s went to and secured from day one. Thereafter they control those until 2011. If there are Iraqi thieves involved in Money/oil, smuggling defiantly should under ears& eyes of both US& UK forces.<br />In fact, there was a report by Iraqi journalist from south "Basra" telling each small boats or tanker, which they carry 100,000 in size, they pay $US5000 to Britt’s force to pass to the Arabian Gulf.<br />Let read in more about this matter who in control and secure those oil ports in southern Iraq, what they secure, you tell me?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><b><i>U.S. Forces Hand Over Basra Oil Port Security to Iraqis</i></b><br /><i>U.S. forces have handed over security responsibility for Basra oil port to the Iraqis.<br />Most of the U.S. military personnel have left the area, except for a small unit that will be responsible for training. This step was taken ahead of the total withdrawal of the U.S. military from Iraq four months down the road. Basvoice.com July 26, 2011</i><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/LastIraqOilTerminalPatrolForRoyalNavy.htm" rel="nofollow">Last Iraq oil terminal patrol for Royal Navy</a><br /><i>A Military Operations news article, 12 Apr 11</i><br /><i>HMS Iron Duke is nearing the end of her patrols of Iraq's oil terminals, heralding the end of the Royal Navy's eight-year involvement in their protection.</i><br /><br /><i>HMS Iron Duke patrols the waters around the Al Basrah Oil Terminal, off Iraq's Al Faw peninsula<br />[Picture: Leading Airman (Photographer) James Crawford, Crown Copyright/MOD 2011]<br />Since the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime in 2003, Britain's frigate fleet has been committed to almost round-the-clock patrols of the waters around the Khawr Al Amaya and Al Basrah Oil Terminals - known throughout the fleet as KAAOT and ABOT.</i><br /><br /><i>The two platforms deliver millions of barrels of oil to waiting tankers each day - generating around 80 per cent of the country's income in the process.<br /><br />The safeguarding of the invaluable terminals, off the Al Faw peninsula at the tip of the Gulf, has been performed principally by Royal Navy, US and Australian forces and, increasingly, Iraqi sailors and marines.<br /><br />The latter were trained by a UK-US team at Umm Qasr, Iraq's principal port and naval base, and have already taken over responsibility for defending the older KAAOT.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-38725816254544920922011-08-13T13:23:46.122-07:002011-08-13T13:23:46.122-07:00That's what I was trying to get to with my pr...That's what I was trying to get to with my previous comment. I'm sure the Sadrists are involved in extorting money, but my impression is that everyone does that. When Fadhila ran Basra for example from 2005-2009, the governor's brother was one of the largest oil smugglers in Iraq. Everyone has got a finger in the pie. There are gangs, militias, government officials, contractors, politicians, parties, etc. all doing nefarious things.Joel Winghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09611810110771744360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-8061182352316400802011-08-13T13:07:21.444-07:002011-08-13T13:07:21.444-07:00Joel,
Don’t believe only Sadrists the mane thief ...Joel,<br /><br />Don’t believe only Sadrists the mane thief in southern Iraq.<br /><br />Back when Maliki went there and cracked down them it was all about who hold the theft of oil from that massive oil filed.<br /><br />Also let not forgot Iran in line making problems in some southern oil fields on ground land/sharing lies.<br /><br />Kuwaiti have some issue in that matter. But the gungs rolling Iraq not just purely SadristsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-18788216750580530022011-08-13T06:21:19.953-07:002011-08-13T06:21:19.953-07:00For SURE politicians and other officials get their...For SURE politicians and other officials get their cuts too. Nowdays there is alot of talking of Maliki's son Ahmed and his hand in many bussines. Nebras Kazemi in his blog (Talisman Gate) years ago was on of teh first to mention the hands of Ahmed with some telecom Co. If yu can visit Karrada ask the taxi driver to show you the huge villas that ISCI/Badder politicians when everybody know they came from Iran just on 2003...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-72161156293873987142011-08-12T12:29:26.003-07:002011-08-12T12:29:26.003-07:00Anon, is it only the Sadrists that are doing this?...Anon, is it only the Sadrists that are doing this? Do politicians and other officials ask for their cuts as well?Joel Winghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09611810110771744360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1953410733493889728.post-81144806897285827832011-08-12T12:25:54.064-07:002011-08-12T12:25:54.064-07:00Security, security and security. The militias/gang...Security, security and security. The militias/gangs usually deal with local authorities (Local Council) and local government offices: lets say for instance Water and Sewage offices (Ministry of Municipality and Publics Works), where they learn that X local company or subcontracot got X project...So soon you receive a visit of the gangs (Mahdy army) asking you for X% to be safe implementing your project. I haved the terribly experience of local staff killed because some police in the Iraqi side of the border with Kuwait gave information of my staff travelling from Kuwait to Basra...,and local gangs hijacked and killed my staff. But today we have a Moqtada & Co. from inside the governmen!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com